[jamal-kumar]

I suppose this is of special interest now since Poland, a NATO member, got hit by what sounds like an errant missile from Russia recently. [1]

Reading the first part, I think the best thing that could happen in the event some big red buttons get pushed is that if you're next to a military base you're probably going to be vaporized along with it if you can't evacuate. Trying to survive that kind of thing sounds way worse.

Was nice knowing everyone!

[1] https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/15/russia-poland-missi...

[mzs]

Seems to be a 5V55K type motor and S-300 sized crater:

https://twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/1592618577622093824

[dredmorbius]

Dark patterns / regwall: <https://nitter.net/JakeGodin/status/1592618577622093824>

[jamal-kumar]

Yeah, they've been repurposing those particular surface-to-air missiles for land attacks since around July. [1]

[1] https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-now-firing-s-30...

[gdy]

'A ukrainian official alleged...'

There, fixed that for you.

5V55K has the range of 47 km, Russia is much further from Poland than that.

Ukraine, on the other hand, uses Soviet S-300.

[deepsun]

What are you talking about? They launched dosens (hundreds since Feb 24th) of Kalibr missiles, all the way from Caspian and Black seas.

[gdy]

And when Ukrainian military tries to intercept them, stray Ukrainian S-300 missiles sometimes kill civilians on the ground. Awkward, right? Better say that Russians are repurposing ground-to-air missiles and firing them at Ukrainian civilians.

This time it was Polish civilians and the lie won't fly.

"Three U.S. officials said preliminary assessments suggested the missile was fired by Ukrainian forces at an incoming Russian missile" [0]

[0] https://apnews.com/article/g-20-summit-nato-biden-andrzej-du...

[kmm]

Why are you bringing up Kalibrs if the parent was talking about S-300 type missiles?

[deepsun]

You're right, I stand corrected.

[MrRiddle]

Everyone now admits it’s Ukrainian, but all media initially reported it was stray Russian missile.

[jamal-kumar]

It's quite easy to assume given Ukraine isn't firing in that direction and that it's a weapon that goes back to Soviet times.

I'm glad that it (probably?) didn't turn out to be from Russia, though!

[gdy]

Everyone but the Ukrainian president who earlier said that the missile was an attack on 'collective security' and demanded from NATO that it swiftly punishes the perpetrator))

[lostlogin]

It seems to have been an errant middle from Ukraine, fired by Ukrainian forces, not from Russian forces.

https://www.reuters.com/world/poland-blast-caused-by-missile...

[bearmode]

Its errancy isn't overly clear.