[drowsspa]

A diet that doesn't take into account the factors that lead someone to overeat is useless by definition. If "most people can't follow this simple principle" then evidently it's a useless principle. Unless the goal is to point fingers to feel better about yourself, in which case it's pretty useful.

[0x737368]

What are you talking about? If you eat a diet that has the required number of calories and nutrients designed for a healthy-weight person, your body weight will drop accordingly.

The factors that lead someone to overeat is a totally different question the answer to which should be figured out by themselves or maybe their psychologist. In most cases it's not that dire though, once their initial withdrawal from fast food stops people stop having these impulses to reach for a doughnut each time they're inconvenienced. In any case, your problems in life should be treated by dealing with the problems directly and not making themselves feel better by stuffing their face.

[drowsspa]

> If you eat a diet that has the required number of calories and nutrients designed for a healthy-weight person, your body weight will drop accordingly.

Thanks for explaining thermodynamics to me, I guess?

> once their initial withdrawal from fast food stops people stop having these impulses to reach for a doughnut each time they're inconvenienced

Statistically, most people who try to eat less fail to do it. Why do you think you don't you have the impulse to reach for a donut each time you're inconvenienced?

I guess it's more comfortable to just call them lazy, but it's utterly useless and un-actionable at a societal and personal level. Diets have to be all about managing the sensation of hunger while maintaining such a caloric deficit. CICO amounts to "Just eat less lol"

[0x737368]

> Statistically, most people who try to eat less fail to do it.

Yep, because the secret is simple, not easy. Whereas people want to find some high-tech wunderwaffen arcane diet that will be hyper complex but easy to follow and will lead to effortless results.

There was this documentary on yt[0] where a fitness model gained lots of weight on purpose to lose it, and even he had mood swings and initially had problems with following his diet regimen when it was time to lose the weight. But point still stands, if you stick with the diet your weight will drop.

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew7g7AqGqzo

[drowsspa]

I'm gonna ignore this whole "fitness model gaining weight on purpose" because I don't even know how to respond to you thinking this is somehow relevant. What it does show me is that you're quite unwilling to imagine yourself in others' shoes.

I'm not continuing this conversation, but let me just tell you: if you don't feel a strong impulse, you don't need that much self-control to not act upon it. So you should think about what's actually so different about you compared to all those fat people.

[0x737368]

Ok, best of luck to you on your journey