[hatware]

Plex lost their best users by missing the point of self hosting entirely. Nobody wants to deal with third party downtime, even if it is rare and intermittent.

I think most products go through phases like this. Plex has some diehards that have stuck around (I think it's just buyers remorse for the Plex pass) but I think they are at a 5th or 6th tier of "customer" at this point, seeing the continuous churn spiral they are fighting.

[daemoens]

I haven't really encountered any issues besides the downtime that has occured maybe twice since I bought the yearly two years ago.

Everything just works and I never really notice those three submenus except when I'm logging into a new device and it takes like ~10 seconds to unpin them. Everything has been basically perfect for me.

[hatware]

> I haven't really encountered any issues besides the downtime that has occured maybe twice since I bought the yearly two years ago.

> I never really notice those three submenus except when I'm logging into a new device and it takes like ~10 seconds to unpin them.

Maybe it's just me, but the way you've written these sentences makes it sound like you have buyers remorse. Doesn't sound like things are "basically perfect."

FWIW, I left Plex two years ago for Jellyfin, and haven't looked back. Never even bought the garbage Plex Pass.

[daemoens]

How does that sound like buyers remorse? Twice over two years is essentially nothing, and I do the ~10 seconds unpinning like twice a year. It's so close to basically no issues I consider Plex to be perfect for me.

[hatware]

Because if it was actually perfect that's the only feedback you'd give...?

> It's so close to basically no issues

There are issues. You can keep contradicting yourself by explaining how perfect means there are still problems. I'm enjoying it.

[daemoens]

> It's so close to basically no issues

I don't think you understand what I mean. Plex has worked perfectly for two years straight. These 2 issues have taken up less than ~2 minutes of my life. That is equivalent to perfect from my point of view. Stop being unreasonably pedantic about my own words.

[hatware]

> Stop being unreasonably pedantic about my own words.

I'm taking your words at face value, you can communicate more clearly but it is your choice to do so.

[katbyte]

Don’t forget about 3rd party security, they were recently hacked exposing customer accounts details. thier push for online accounts is what ruled it out for me.

[imran-iq]

> Nobody wants to deal with third party downtime

Not only that, I don't want my adblocker to have to block services running on my local network (they have some analytics + sentry).

[srcreigh]

Does this require any special set up?

I’m asking out of laziness.. my local server has pi hole set up, and the other devices use that for DNS thru Tailscale, but I’m not sure what gets blocked for stuff running on the server. I recall some Tailscale setup involved a flag to disable some DNS thing. Hmmm

[imran-iq]

In my case not really. There is server side scanning in which plex shares data about your media with their backend. Not sure if there is any setting to disable that.

As far as the web client goes ublock origin handles it for me.

[srcreigh]

Ok. As per my above comment, it should be possible to filter out the analytics/sentry via DNS using pi hole. In theory, you'd just have to set up your Plex machine to use pi hole DNS ad blocking, and ensure that the pi hole domain list includes analytics domains. And Tailscale MagicDNS with the primary DNS server being your Plex/pi hole server, with your other devices configured with Tailscale, should block everything.

The only potential blocker I can see is whether the HDMI streaming device makes HTTP requests, in which case it would need to use the Tailscale proxy, and I'm not sure if that's supported.

[indigodaddy]

You can’t auth directly to your server from a Plex app with a local account anymore? I thought you could still at some point in the past but haven’t tried it in awhile. I know you can still do that from a web browser (I believe)..

[fragmede]

it's not officially supported so there's a workaround but that has its own limitations.

[d4rti]

I started using plex when my synology nas stopped supporting smb1 and Sonos doesn’t support anything newer.

Do any of the competing solutions work with Sonos and have iOS and webOS (LG TV) apps?

[hatware]

Any Subsonic music server works well with this: https://github.com/simojenki/bonob

[mrlatinos]

I guess I'm not one of Plex's best users. Huh.