[atemerev]

Level 8 is about where sokoban starts? That's what nearly any beginner could do after a few days (or even hours) of playing.

[Hackbraten]

I’ve been playing for maybe 100 hours over the course of a decade, and have reached level 8 maybe once or twice. I just keep getting killed by some stupid ant or wolf or whatnot.

[ranbato]

I've been playing on and off for 3 decades. Finally started winning when I used the iPhone and Android versions. Something about the UIs makes me better than that PC interface.

[atemerev]

iNetHack2?

[ranbato]

On iPhone, yes.