[geek_at]

for me as a server admin I hate how incredibly annoying it is to set up a new instance. Even the docker setup is very poorly explained (as in not at all in the official documentation) and there are so many subsystems needed for the setup. There are many third party setup guides but most are so outdated that they don't work anymore

It's not self contained and after running an instance for a while you can be in update hell because the containers might need newer versions and you need to read up on every service and how to update that.

I much more appreciate the gitea approach. Simple setup, self contained but can be extended with external databases if needed

[hinkley]

I have a situation at work where someone keeps reporting CVEs to me and I don’t think they get that our docker base image gets automatically rebuilt every so many days and picks up all the fixed from Alpine. If we do nothing that window will close itself in a few days. So do you think we need to drop everything and work on this or just wait?

Sounds like Mastodon is missing some engineering discipline and maybe this is a good time for some to show up. Fixing some of this stuff before Twitter gets even worse would be a good thing.

[ashildr]

On the contrary I found it quite easy to set up a dockerized Mastodon system using prebuilt containers. It took me half a day of tinkering from not knowing anything about it to compose a system that was integrated into the rest of my infra that I was comfortable to invite my friends to.

What I am now completely oblivious to is KPIs to judge the health of the components.