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by VictorPath 1308 days ago
Coronavirus hit New Zealand in 2020, and by May 2nd twenty people had died. New Zealand implemented lockdowns and ordered vaccines, although they took a while to come. By the end of October 2021, 28 people had died of Covid in New Zealand. They had massively attended sporting events at the height of the world pandemic as coronavirus was undetectable in the country. Once pretty much any one who wanted to be vaccinated got vaccinated, they loosened the rules.

Whereas in the US you have immediate resistance from these Christian fundamentalists (Hillsdale is Christian fundamentalist). Over one million Americans are dead of Covid, lots of people have long Covid, and anecdotally hospitals were full and all hospital patients saw delays in care, so I am sure people who could not get cancer treatments died due to these nuts.
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peteradio 1308 days ago
> dead of Covid

w/covid

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_djo_ 1308 days ago
That statement immediately exposes you as a crank.

Millions of excess deaths happened, deaths that would not have happened without COVID infections. I had otherwise perfectly healthy friends and family either die or be stuck with long term conditions from it.

There’s value in debating the best measures taken to handle the pandemic, there’s none whatsoever in denying it was even a thing.

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peteradio 1308 days ago
No, its important to be accurate about what numbers are representing. OP is misquoting an important statistic and for whatever reason you see fit to back that up with no cited sources and unverifiable anecdotes. My anecdote is that Covid did not kill anyone I know.
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_djo_ 1308 days ago
Nope. There’s nothing new in the way COVID deaths are reported, and in fact making the distinction you’re demanding is what would be the break from standard practice. Death certificates have for decades had contributory causes listed with the main one being the most proximate cause.

For instance if someone has severe hypertension and then has a heart attack both are usually listed but the heart attack is the cause of death.

I don’t see any need to debunk it further because the claim is patent nonsense and I’m surprised to see anyone still repeating it after all this time.

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peteradio 1308 days ago
It should then be easy for you to cite a source for "Over one million Americans are dead of Covid"
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_djo_ 1308 days ago
Sure. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/from-our-experts/u-s-officially-...
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ohiovr 1308 days ago
The leading cause of death in Canada is unknown.
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