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by Karrot_Kream 1318 days ago
Only Civic Center and 16th Mission are like this. 24th can be a bit gross, but not always. The rest of the system is fairly clean. The problem is that everyone judges the BART by its worst stations but nobody decides whether or not to drive by the horror of a car crash, and that's a cultural issue. Americans culturally erase car trauma but amplify transit trauma.
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VancouverMan 1318 days ago
It's reasonable to judge a transit system based on its worst stations. If those happen to be the stations that a traveler will be using, then what's going on at those stations will have a significant impact on that traveler's experience.
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Karrot_Kream 1318 days ago
Sure but those stations generally don't have "nice folks" (hate using that term, given that I grew up in an area that would be avoided by these nice folks, but most on HN are generationally upper-middle class so) living near them. 16th and Mission is the exception because of the rapidly gentrified Valencia street, but Civic Center is very much not where upper-middle class folks live. The BART station nearest to me is clean and nice. Proximity to BART generally increases property values and rents.
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baby 1318 days ago
They're like the main stations that everyone use :D
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Karrot_Kream 1318 days ago
Huh? This is publicly available information published by BART. Civic Center is used a lot, but isn't in the top 3. 16th St is more on par with stops in Berkeley or Oakland and isn't used much. 24th St is used even less. Civic Center is used much more often as an exit station (e.g. to commute to) than an entry station (e.g. where people live.) The most used stops are Embarcadero, Montgomery, and Powell.

https://www.bart.gov/about/reports/ridership

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