Except most BART stations are fine. Even 24th and Mission, the most notorious, is actually really not that bad. Once people use it, they'll hate it less. However, most people will steer clear for their entire lives.
Man, that's not even remotely close to my experience. I used that station (and 16th st) regularly and saw:
- frequent drug use
- frequent drug sales
- congested and filthy station entrances/exits
- zonked out naked dudes starting fights on the platform (yes more than once or twice)
- liquid poop on station stairs
I wish I was exaggerating but... this is just how it is around those stations.
Depends on your definition of bad. Urine smells, homeless people, and knowledge that muggings typically happen around that area?
I’d call that bad. I’m with you - we need more public transit in the bay. But there’s a huge swath of people where that Bart experience just isn’t going to work.
> knowledge that muggings typically happen around that area
I witnessed one in a bus near tartine in the mission. Safety is really this thing that only becomes an issue after you witness it or become victim of it.
Not that bad? Hate it less? What an exciting pitch for the new nuisance in your neighborhood.
I'm not familiar with that area but I can infer that it must be pretty miserable for people who care about their surroundings, respect public spaces, and work hard to maintain a high standard in the environments they occupy. More power to them.
I feel like it changed noticeably around 2012-2014. Before then it was okay, and since then it's terribad. Basically, in lockstep with the skyrocketing cost-of-living in SF associated with the city's tech boom.
- frequent drug use - frequent drug sales - congested and filthy station entrances/exits - zonked out naked dudes starting fights on the platform (yes more than once or twice) - liquid poop on station stairs
I wish I was exaggerating but... this is just how it is around those stations.