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by maxsilver 1311 days ago
> But the (Tesla) connector is definitely better,

I'm not convinced of that. Tesla's connector is thinner and lighter yes absolutely. But Tesla is also weaker and less reliable \ less fault tolerant than standard EV charger cables (See the dreaded EP307 / lock error, something that can't even happen with a normal EV CCS charger)

I definitely think it's preferable for CCS win, as it's the safest, most durable, most compatible, while also being the lowest cost option.

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The tesla plug has a decade of successful heavy use behind it, and it doesn't have a history of failing despite being the most used ev charging system and plug in the world (comparing to the ccs standards around the us and the world). You'll need to provide some references to point to tesla problems. On the other hand I have a brand new us ccs car and every time I go to a public charger it's an open question whether it will work (and yes there are a variety of problems). CCS charging is less reliable, it's a common thing for people to complain about ccs charging problems. With due respect, I think you are wrong.
I may be mistaken, but I was under the impression that the vast majority of 'faulty' chargers are in fact issues with software. Ie. Network connection down. Car not registered. Card terminal broken. Etc.
I think you are probably right that most problems are hardware, but there are a lot of broken chargers (display out, not fixed). People just report them all the time. look at reddit.com/r/electricvehicles.

But yeah, it's probably a lot of software issues. Strangely I do not hear from Europe that there are problems like here. I don't hear about 'charger is broken or won't charge' in Europe when people use tesla chargers (which are on the euro-ccs standard just like tesla cars there). Can anyone chime in? I'm in the US.

>it's preferable for CCS win, as it's the safest, most durable, most compatible, while also being the lowest cost option.

Can you share a link to back these claims?

Not sure where any of these suggestions come from. Superchargers have the highest utilization and uptime in the industry.

Thinner means more accessible/easier to use. CCS is wholly unreliable if it is even slightly at the wrong angle, which is common due to the bulk of the plug and cable.