[hackmiester]

Wait until you say this after 10 years.

[vintermann]

After 10 years he might even be as fast as with a non-modal editor.

[Ar-Curunir]

Every non-modal editor I’ve used is significantly slower at editing text than Vim

[vintermann]

We have been through this argument many times. Here's Tog at Apple in 1989:

https://www.asktog.com/TOI/toi06KeyboardVMouse1.html

And even then, it was old news. There was behavioural research in the 70s, the same kind that was used for designing cockpits (and which saved lives), showing that modal interfaces were undesirable.

It can well be that you're a god with vim. But odds are, then, that you could have been a god with modern CUA-derived interfaces too (or with Emacs) if you'd put similar effort into it.

[ejstronge]

Supposedly this article has been mis-cited of late and the keyboard shortcuts / mouse shortcuts of yore are distinct from what we have today. I can't find recent links but I'll offer the general advice that words used in the 70s do not necessarily have the same connotations they carry today.

EDIT: here's an HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28067729

[NateEag]

Did you misspell "editor with language intelligence?"

Because yeah, vim won't beat IntelliJ, but you can get it to be pretty decent with LSP:

https://github.com/prabirshrestha/vim-lsp

[hackmiester]

I use vim exclusively, and I laughed, because you are sort of right.

[pletnes]

I’m at 15 soon.

[aidenn0]

25, with 5 years of other vi editors previous to that. Vim is pretty great.

[deadlocked]

20 and I only discovered :vsplit/:hsplit this year.