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/e/ supports loads of random phones without a strong HSM. In my estimation this means it will be much easier to get into a locked phone with physical access. I imagine the phone would get imaged, and then the passcode bruteforced on another machine without rate limiting.

Calyx supports Pixel3 and Fairphone, but otherwise looks pretty similar. According to GOS's main developer's comments in this thread, Calyx:

- doesn't have features like https://grapheneos.org/features#storage-scopes.

- doesn't have the Play sandbox

- "isn't a hardened OS and isn't at all comparable to GrapheneOS. They recently didn't even ship half the baseline Android security patches for 2 months, let alone providing much better patching and substantially hardening the privacy and security of the OS"

My opinion is biased since I'm a GOS user, and I have a very positive opinion of the project, so take this with a pinch of salt.

[ranguna]

Thanks for the comparisons!

Although it's missing the cons of GOS (if any) and citation for:

> without a strong HSM

So the post smells a bit like a sales pitch for GOS, nonthless it's useful info. Thanks again!