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by SketchySeaBeast 1313 days ago
I'm hearing that because I'm 6'6" I should either be able to pay for premium or just never fly. That's a good excuse to get out an in-laws wedding next summer - I'll run it by my wife.
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I’m hearing that you should recline your seat if you need more space.
Now we're in a prisoners dilemma, aren't we?
No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines. To be a PD it would have to be better for everyone if nobody reclined.

We're in, perhaps, a tyranny of the majority, but those are everywhere. As I'm sure you've already noticed if you're 6'6".

> No, we're just in an equilibrium where everyone reclines

Never had to sit in the very last row of an airplane?

We are in the trolley problem, not the prisoners dilemma.

And on some planes they even allowed those seats to recline a little, so maybe not in any philosophical debate other than that people often don't consider other people's suffering

Ah, so it's really a "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" situation.
Every now and then I fly in a small plane that takes me from a major hub to my hometown about 200 miles away. Basically if I’m already at the airport coming off another flight, it’s easier just to hop on a plane than Uber an hour away across the metro and then drive back down south.

The plane only has 55 seats and no premium seats. I see tall people struggle all of the time.

I'm also 6'6" and that's a realization I came to years ago. Pre-pandemic it was 'pay for first class', post-pandemic it's been 'never fly'. (And if I'm lucky I'll never have to get on an airplane ever again)
So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.
As a tall person (not even that tall, 190cm) I'm going to have to vehemently disagree.

Car, airplane, train bus, metro, etc. seats and space available are designed for shorter people. Doors are sometimes too short (I've taken multiple violent hits to the head due to this abroad). Clothes are harder to find.

Do you have any other counter examples? Maybe i only see when I'm inconveniences and miss when things are made for me.

Do you have any examples of things biased in favor of tall people?
_Life at the top_ by Nobel Laureate Angus Deaton:

"According to the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index daily poll of the US population, taller people live better lives, at least on average. They evaluate their lives more favorably, and they are more likely to report a range of positive emotions such as enjoyment and happiness. They are also less likely to report a range of negative experiences, like sadness, and physical pain, though they are more likely to experience stress and anger, and if they are women, to worry. These findings cannot be attributed to different demographic or ethnic characteristics of taller people, but are almost entirely explained by the positive association between height and both income and education, both of which are positively linked to better lives."

Link (PDF): https://www.princeton.edu/~deaton/downloads/Deaton_Life_at_t...

I can reach into the cupboard above the refrigerator without a step stool. Oh, yea, I can see over most people in a crowd.

I jest, but I'm just a bit taller than average. Occasionally, my wife will point out something that's far easier for me because it's in my reach and not in her reach. Except in cramped circumstances, being taller gives you more flexibility.

> Height discrimination (also known as heightism) is prejudice or discrimination against individuals based on height. In principle, it refers to the discriminatory treatment against individuals whose height is not within the normal acceptable range of height in a population.

> So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.

Case in point? Tall people are outside the normal, acceptable range of height. They certainly get micro- (and in this case, macro) aggressed for it. In my experience, the micro-aggressions seem more blatant because being tall is perceived as being an obviously good thing. People want to be comfortable in their bodies.

This is about human perception, not about things being designed with a bias in favour of tall people.
I said nothing about things being “designed with a bias in favor of tall people.'

Tall people earn significantly more on average. Asking short people to underwrite tall people's airfare does not seem fair given that fact.

I'm 6'10. What is built in my favor?
Basketball goal.

Volleyball net.

Gutters on single story house.

Definitely not chairs, door frames, showers, or beds.

Drawback to that first one - Everyone asking if you play basketball. Especially obnoxious during junior high - No, I just put on like two feet of growth, I'm lucky if I can even figure out where my feet are, to say nothing of running with them.
Becoming a CEO or other high status job.
name a CEO who is 6'10
Shaq
I'm of a similar height and you're leaving out the third option. Fly and suffer. Sit like a GSD with hip dysplasia.

But in all seriousness, you're not used to it by now? Paying more for clothes that fit properly, a car that fits without hair brushing on the headliner or knees in the steering column, air mattresses, real mattresses, tents, bicycles, shoes, etc.

It's true - I'm used to having to pay more for the same and for putting up with a certain level of expected discomfort. I just find with flying there's not a good alternative option. I can shop around for a car that fits me in the right price range, I straight up just don't have a choice with flying.