| you are clearly an irrational narcissist extremist and have absolutely no common sense. to just state "I'm right, there's plenty of facts" is ridiculous. A paper that explores what might happen is not evidence. Plenty of rational people are working the problem. The paper you linked said: "There is ample evidence that climate change could become catastrophic.". I have no problem with believing it might go that way either. But you're no a climate scientist and you aren't the judge of what is definitely going to happen. But you seem to think it's drastic enough to justify and defend killing? That's crazy. I'd rather (maybe) starve in 10 years than see a bunch of extremist bullies taking things into their own hands now. It's a breakdown in society, but not due to any crisis but imagined in your own head (likely in future or not, it hasn't happened). One of us is brainwashed and we won't agree on who. All I can say is that one side has a reasonable code of ethics and one side is basically anarchy and terrorism. Guess what I won't ever accept - not climate change - but thinking that your motives are ever right enough to overrule right and wrong. That's far more dangerous than putin with nukes, 3 degrees C and china. And it's more dangerous sooner. Now, if you really do believe all of what you said, instead of chaining yourself to a bridge, how about you quit your 1st world job, get rid of your cars, air conditioning, etc. Get rid of your own carbon footprint which is roughly the size of Ethiopia, crawl in a hole, and wait it out. But don't bug the rest of us. If you are right, you'll inherit what's left of the earth. If you're right it's imminent, so it won't take long. I don't tell you what you should believe. I don't defend the rich either but I do defend everyone's right to live within the law and make decisions on their own - you are not the lawfully elected climate czar. If that means society might be doomed, so be it. Because if we go your route, it's 100% already gone. |
You are clearly unaware of what the words "irrational", "narcissist", and "extremist" mean.
> A paper that explores what might happen is not evidence.
A paper that explores what is increasingly likely to happen as the very people with the power and influence necessary to mitigate further climatological destruction is absolutely evidence. People are already dying in growing numbers from heat waves. People are already feeling the effects of worsening droughts. People are already being invaded over dwindling natural resources.
The people in those private jets are either somehow entirely uninformed about the gravity of the situation or else are aware but simply don't care. Either one is unacceptable.
> But you seem to think it's drastic enough to justify and defend killing?
I strongly suspect, based on the available evidence, that it's drastic enough for people to be justifiably agitated about it. "Oh mister millionaire, would you pretty please stop poisoning our water and atmosphere and soil?"
> I'd rather (maybe) starve in 10 years than see a bunch of extremist bullies taking things into their own hands now.
Whether you like it or not, you're increasingly likely to end up with both the longer the rich and powerful continue to put their own wealth and power before the rest of us.
> one side has a reasonable code of ethics
A code of ethics that puts billionaires' wealth before human life is in no way reasonable.
> That's far more dangerous than putin with nukes, 3 degrees C and china.
If you sincerely believe that some hippies engaging in vandalism (at worst) is more dangerous than even one of those existential threats to humankind (let alone all three), then I pray you someday receive the reality check you so desperately need.
> Now, if you really do believe all of what you said, instead of chaining yourself to a bridge, how about you quit your 1st world job, get rid of your cars, air conditioning, etc.
Those things are extraordinarily tiny compared to the scale of destruction from corporate sources. Climate change is a systemic issue, requiring systemic solutions.
> If you are right, you'll inherit what's left of the earth.
If I'm right, there won't be much to inherit.
> I don't defend the rich either
You've spent the entirety of this thread demonstrating otherwise.
> I do defend everyone's right to live within the law
Legality != morality.
> Because if we go your route, it's 100% already gone.
"Wah hippies blocking rich people from taking off in their private jets is the end of society! I just want to plug my ears and pretend everything's fine, but those rude millennials keep reminding me that humanity's actions have consequences! Wah!"
You have been misled. The sooner you understand this, the sooner you will mature into an asset to humanity's survival in the coming decades rather than continue to immaturely impede it. It doesn't seem likely you ever will given our conversation, and I am truly sorry that your heart is so hardened that you would demand politeness over justice, and would rather starve than permit your fellow man to do anything even slightly uncomfortable to the rich and powerful in defense of one's own rights to life, liberty, and property.
Martin Luther King, Jr. had some choice words about the "white moderate" and the preference for negative peace over positive peace. Said choice words come to mind here.