[gausswho]

I remember bouncing off DOOM Eternal after a couple hours because all its clever new mechanics were oddly anti-fun and puzzly resource management. Like the creators didn't know what made the predecessor special. I was confused and stopped playing a couple hours in.

So I watched the Noclip hoping to understand the design choices better. Marty was disgustingly smug and assured about it all, coming across like a victim for being a misunderstood creative genius. Several times he implied the 2016 breakout hit he was following up on was dull and repetitive.

That helped me understand where it all went wrong. I'm devastated but not surprised that Mick got treated this way. Props to him for choosing to get the word out instead of taking a payoff. I hope there are professional repercussions for Marty.

[fluoridation]

I bought the 2016 release at full price like within the first month of its release and decided to skip Eternal when I heard several reviews mention you had to ration ammo. Few things annoy me more than shooters that don't let you shoot as much as you want. Hell, every time I replay DOOM 2016 the first thing I upgrade is ammo all the way, and only then do I even consider upgrading health or armor.

[Geee]

I never played 2016, but ammo in Eternal is pretty much similar to any older Doom games, except that you also get ammo by using chainsaw on enemies. I think this made the game excellent, because it forces you to get close to enemies and use different types of attacks. There's lots of ammo if you know how to play it. The game always spawns these 'fodder' type enemies which can be used to get ammo, so you'll never run out.

[fluoridation]

I don't know, I didn't play Doom back in the day, but I did play other '90s shooters and as a general rule none of them were resource management games. The difficulty usually arises from multitasking, reflexes, and precision. They're designed so that if you use your entire arsenal situationally you'll never run dry unless you have really poor aim. The resource you do have to manage, although indirectly, is your health, because in each level you can only recharge so much before death is inevitable. DUKE3D was an exception, where on most level it would let you recharge completely at the cost of standing in one place just holding down the use key continuously for one or two minutes.

[gausswho]

Yeah that game loop was what I loved too. It was brainless in the ways I enjoyed, made you feel like a Doom Guy. It was as hard as you wanted, in that vein of game. Eternal was a brave subversion that just didn't suit the origins of the franchise. Maybe they won some crossover fans, but I'm not convinced the trade was worth it.

[pie_flavor]

I found it dull and repetitive, and loved Eternal. I have no idea whether I'm in the minority, but just because someone is a horrible person ethically doesn't mean that their taste in video games is horrible too.

[gausswho]

Fair, I can definitely see why players will enjoy one or the other more. They are quite different in what mechanics they tailor for. I was put off by the demeanor of the creative director in the documentary, who it turns out wasn't Marty at all but Hugo Martin.

[busterarm]

It's like you're in my head. I had this exact same experience as you did, word for word.