[laputan_machine]

> They were intended to provide more privacy to users from all sorts of parties, but mainly government and big tech companies. The problem is that DOH makes enterprise cyber security very hard and also damages things like ISP parental controls, and some filtering for child sexual abuse images

Man getting paid to spy on people complains about not being able to spy on people and uses the tried and tested "think of the children!" angle. Classic.

[tyho]

> Apple Private Relay makes law enforcement’s life much harder when looking at who’s visiting certain dodgy websites

Good

> but also potentially reduces the resilience of mobile networks because it messes with the caching strategies in place today and makes diagnosing problems harder.

This is a lie because the vast majority of internet traffic is already encrypted and hence un-cachable. Even if it is true, I don't care, we can trade caching for privacy, we did it with HTTP and the sky didn't fall.

> It also makes it impossible for those networks not to charge for certain data traffic because they can’t see which sites a phone is trying to visit.

Again, good.

Seriously. Fuck this guy and everything he stands for.

[throwup]

Let me just add:

> it messes with the caching strategies in place today and makes diagnosing problems harder.

ISPs will do the most boneheaded things to your traffic if it is not encrypted. There was a time when Comcast liked injecting random HTML into pages. I'm sure this guy has never had to "diagnose problems" resulting from an ISP rewriting HTML on the fly. Nowadays with TLS, ISPs are mostly out of the picture and the surface area for problems is dramatically smaller.

[kevin_thibedeau]

If they know the dodgy websites they want to censor then block the IPs. There's no need to depend on DNS to do this work.

[tyho]

Doesn't work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication

[tristor]

It's an unfortunate reality that the UK Government has taken a strong anti-privacy and particularly anti-DoH stance for ages. They've used every political and technical lever possible to prevent users from having any reasonable level of online privacy within the UK, and one of their favorite things to do is to trot out "non-profits" that focus on child exploitation to talk about anything that gives a user any semblance of privacy helps spread CSAM.

Just more of the same tired refrain from people using motivated reasoning who don't have any care for user privacy or the rights of individuals online.

[DaiPlusPlus]

There are far more Daily Express readers than computer networking technology professionals who vote for whoever the next Home Secretary will be.