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by rabuse 1318 days ago
They have less content, but Netflix is seriously full of so much trash content. I've rarely enjoyed a Netflix original movie.
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They’re original stuff is often so incredibly generic and uninspiring. They might have changed how they display shows recently, but I swear there was a period of time not long ago when the main image for a show would only have a single person with a nondescript background. It felt like the whole thing was algorithmically generated.
> It felt like the whole thing was algorithmically generated.

It is: https://www.looper.com/274997/the-secret-behind-netflixs-per...

> They’re original stuff is often so incredibly generic and uninspiring.

And to think these are supposed to be opposites... When Netflix started doing their own productions, I think everybody understood it was the right business decision - to make them less dependent on big studios. But they spectacularly failed. Apart from a few shows everything else is so generic, there is no character in it. It is as if they were afraid of experimenting, of adding some creativity, of being a failure. Well it's all just uninteresting - it turns our I prefer to watch interesting free content on Youtube than supposedly premium content on Netflix.

Obviously this is subjective because my viewing hours are higher on netflix than Disney. Disney doesn't have any dumbout content.

Andor was trash. Obi-Wan was trash. She-Hulk started out bad, got better, then killed itself in the last episode.

Most of the marvel stuff has been terrible compared to Netflix's Jessica Jones, Dare Devil, Luke Cage.

I wouldn’t watch She-Hulk even if it were playing inside my contact lenses.

But Andor has been great! Obj-Wan was ok.

Contrary opinion: Andor was great, Obi-wan was great, She-Hulk was brilliant and fantastic from the start, and others have been absolutely clever.

Netflix's JJ, DD, LC, Defenders, were also great.

Have you _watched_ recent Netflix content? It's truly abysmal.

I don't think it helps generalising either platform. There's no way you can say all of Netflix content is bad. There's really good content coming out like Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Arcane, Dark, Enola Holmes, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Sandman and so on. No other platform invests in anime in my region like Netflix does and considering Crunchyroll doesn't operate here, it's a blessing to finally have a legal way to watch a bunch of them
Yeah, fair. Enola, Dark, and Sandman are great. I canceled recently and haven't seen the others.
I do watch Netflix content, and I like it?

On the other hand, I have zero interest in superhero or starwars content. Disney is basically for children.

I'll take my escapist fantasies mostly PG-13. They're good stuff.

Another comment named some of the better recent content, which to my discredit I grouped as abysmal when it was actually decent.

But any of the Sandler movies? Etc. Etc.

If you have been Star Wars fan since 70s with detail knowledge, then Andor and Obi-Wan were sub-par at best. She-Hulk is quite terrible if you know the comics background. As new age of PC-ness with emphasis on wokeness these days, it is quite good especially the 4th wall breakout in last episode. Fear Street, Escape, Koreans and anime such as Castlevania on Netlifx are very refreshing as compare to westernized-only content on Disney+. By the way, my Disney+ is free from some local popular deal. Mamy I know also on free. Plus multiple subscription to Espn and Hulu. So the number of subscribers are likely heavy double or triple counted.
For the record, while Netflix really pushed the anime angle, Castlevania is actually an entirely American production. It was written, directed, and animated entirely in America by Americans.
> animated entirely in America by Americans.

It doesn't look like that's right.

https://tigeranimation.com/blogPost/CastlevaniaSeason2

https://tigeranimation.com/blogPost/Castlevania1

You're right, my bad: Wikipedia only mentions them in the "animation" section of the side panel, while the actual article only mentions Frederator and Powerhouse.

My reply was incorrect, and I'm not trying to move the goalposts, but it has to be said that the studios you listed have animated many of what would be considered "western" shows: Ben 10, Spiderman, and Animaniacs show up in the credits for Mua Film and Tiger Animation.

My intent was not to focus on the American aspect as much as the "this is very much a western production, unlike what Netflix is trying to imply." I should have worded it better.

Warren Ellis is a reknowned British comic book writer but, yeah, for the most part
Like I know ratings aren't everything... but She-Hulk is so bad it's below Matrix Revolutions and almost close to the kinds of ratings that Neil Breen movies would get.
I also like Matrix Revolutions.

Shocking!

Each of these have various things I liked.

What on earth did you like about Andre, Obi-wan, and especially She-Hulk? I didn’t even get through the first episode of any of them. So I guess they might pick up but I don’t have much hope.

Not that I watched much Netflix original content either, but it’s at least got some variety to it.

To be honest, the first Andor episode is really slow and I also almost dropped it right there, but the rest of the show is actually quite good (so far).
Andor is an amazing adult show about the causes that drive people to take up arms against their government. It's not a traditional Star Wars show.

She Hulk is an engaging legal comedy in the style of Ally McBeal, with Marvel elements.

Both get better after the first episode.

Andor I have 2 episodes left to finish, ah I feel its so slow and drawn out.

She Hulk, I hated the first episode, but it kinda came into its own and I ended up really enjoying it, but the last episode absolutely ruined the whole thing for me.

Andor (ongoing) is one of the best scifis of the last 5 years for me.

It’s a slow start though for the first 2 episodes.

Andor is not trash. Shehulk, Jessica etc are pukeworthy though.
I mean that is the whole idea: make content that (the majority) of people watch to chill and relax. After a bad day etc.

And there are a lot of gems in there too.

It is just simple and we have to acknowledge it: people like watching trash shows.

I recently started watching their original show called 'Inventing Anna'. It was like a max 4 episode content elongated to 10 episodes. This has always been a problem with traditional TV, however differentiating the channels, content was ironically easier then.

Right now, Netflix just forces you to watch certain shows by showing them front and centre. Conscious UI/UX choices to mask limited selections.

I'm sure that Netflix has good shows. But they themselves don't even seem to care anymore.

Say what you will about traditional networks, they have occasionally have executives with eyeballs who watch things and say "this show sucks and needs to be fixed" or "this show is much better than it looks and may succeed with a bit more attention".

Traditional networks compete with each other. When CBS has bad shows viewers might move to ABC. AMC could lose people to FX.

For some reason Netflix seems to think it’s 2009 and they’re still untouchable. Like “no one would ever leave us. We’re Netflix. We are streaming”.

And it’s really hurting them.

I mostly agree tho there are some decent ones. I liked both enola homes movies for instance. but that's the ones I can think of off of the top of my head.