[tsol]

There was a cool link curator service called StumbleUpon. You click a button, and it takes you to a random interesting web page. One of my favorite things about this is you can comment on these pages as well. It was fun to see other peoples reactions to random pages, flash videos, memes, art, essay, etc. Eventually I realized that you can click the 'discussion' button even on pages that StumbleUpon didn't bring me to, and there was still a discussion much of the time(The link must already be in the database, of course).

Anyways, I've always wanted to find something like this again. This sounds similar. I'm gonna try this out and take a look. The big thing that makes it work, IMO, is having enough people participating and having comments be moderated. Unique, sincere comments make the experience fun. Spammy, trolling comments make it just every other boring corner of the internet.

I loved this, I could go anywhere on the web and have a comment section. The important thing about this, though, was that the comments were usually pretty relevant. Rarely did I see trolling or off topic comments(Ie politics). It'd usually just be maybe a one line impression of the site. It was perfect.

[cxr]

> One of my favorite things about this is you can comment on these pages as well.[...] Anyways, I've always wanted to find something like this again.

https://web.hypothes.is

(The public stream is here: <https://hypothes.is/search>. Also supports parameterized RSS <https://web.hypothes.is/help/atom-rss-feeds-for-annotations/> and has a developer API—info available on the Developer tab in your account settings.)

[SketchySeaBeast]

I too remember StumbleUpon fondly. Now I feel like it's a way to get people to go to questionable sites, but back then it was a lot of fun.

> Rarely did I see trolling or off topic comments(Ie politics).

I wonder if this is due to the format or strictly because of the time?

[wldcordeiro]

It wasn't completely randomized though if I recall, people used to submit sites to it and would tag it in different categories and then when you signed up you would select your interests and then it would choose things from the possible options.

[divbzero]

I think it was partly the time and partly the community. The format probably didn’t have much to do with it.

[yamtaddle]

Yeah immediately thought of StumbleUpon.

Incidentally, this is one of several things I've thought FF should have integrated into the browser to differentiate themselves and maybe retain or, if you can imagine it, grow their userbase. It'd be an outstanding core of a distributed social network, if they wanted to take it that direction, and a decade or so ago FF was uniquely positioned to make such a thing happen by integrating it directly with the browser so the best way to experience it was in FF. These days, I'm not sure they've got enough users left to make such a play, but they did at one time.

[ritinkar]

Yeah, cold start and moderation are two problems I need to solve.

I'm focusing on documentation pages at first hoping to build a commpunity that is helpful. Like pointing out pitfalls and better solutions to existing problems.

Also I used to be a stumbleupon user too. I don't remember the discuss feature, but I remember using it to find hidden gems of the web.

[terribleperson]

I'm not an expert of any kind, but I'm going to give my unasked-for advice anyways. 1. Paid moderation as the main solution probably isn't feasible. Even if you can find a way to monetize your project without annihilating your userbase, the amount of text will outpace the manpower you can afford. 2. Moderating is a crap job and there are never enough volunteers. Because there are never enough volunteers, you will feel forced to accept subpar volunteers and tolerate ones with annoying proclivities. The solution to these problems is the same - you need to make the manpower you have go further (cover more text). First, minimize the need for moderation. That's a difficult task when your entire project is user-submitted text, but if you can prevent people from creating multiple accounts and ban or suspend people who generate disproportionate amounts of moderation, it'll help. Second, you need good moderation tools. Don't be reddit, where moderators rely on third-party tools and bots to manage their community. You need to provide good tools to detect things that need moderation and not bother humans for things that don't. The more you can force-multiply your paid and volunteer moderators, the better you'll do.

p.s. I could ramble about moderation for a while. I'm in favor of suspending rather than banning users in most cases, and I've been toying with an idea that suspensions could be based on the amount of content and crap someone generates. You want content, and you want to keep the level of crap in that content low enough your moderation can keep up with it. If someone generates a lot of content and a little crap, you can just remove the crap and only give them a small suspension. If the proportion of crap to content someone generates is over whatever threshold you think is manageable for your platform, give them increasing-duration suspensions so they're generating less content and less crap - keeping your sitewide crap threshold down. If their crap-to-content ratio goes back below the threshold, or your sitewide crap load has gone down, you can start cutting down the duration on the suspensions. An algorithm could surely be devised for this and then you just set a 'crap threshold' platform wide and moderators don't have to do anything other than remove a post and the suspension is automatically applied. There are exceptions, of course. Illegal content? Removal and warning if it's not too serious - ban if they do it a second time. Removal and ban if it's serious. Harassing other users? Ban. Crap of a type that will drive away your userbase? Warning, ban. You could probably devise a more strict algorithm for this, but when it comes to people who make a community worse by being there, being lenient with them is something you're doing for their benefit, not yours. Whether you choose to be lenient is up to you, but if you get it wrong they'll drive away the people who generate content and you'll be left with people who generate crap.

[ritinkar]

Thanks for the comment. It was quite insightful.

I don't have any prior moderation experience, so I plan on taking up the task myself initially to get a good grasp of the challenge. That way I can build good tools to make the task easier.

[jasfi]

This webpage has the story of what happened to StumbleUpon, a link to it's successor Mix, and some alternatives:

https://techboomers.com/websites-like-stumbleupon