[prvit]

I did really look. Those articles don’t really discuss their numbers.

Except this bit, which has been totally debunked on HN in the past:

>The debate about the actual numbers of diseased has raged since the British newspaper, The Guardian, published its investigative piece: “Revealed: 6,500 migrant workers have died in Qatar since World Cup awarded”.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30930117

That Guardian article claims an absurdly low death rate among migrant workers in Qatar.

[Tarsul]

not HNs brightest hour. The discussion in that thread hinges on the fact that people do die naturally. Duh, of course. That's why the story of the Guardian is sprinkled with a lot of stories that go inside how people died and how inhumane the working conditions in Quatar often are, leading to all kinds of humanitarian problems, not the least of which is basically slavery, as in that people cannot freely change their employer and are thus bound by whoever employed them when they came in the country. And so on and so on. Also, we have to understand that it's way more difficult to get to this information in dictatorships. Which is to say just because there are not a lot of figures and studies of e.g. Uyghurs in prisonment camps in China, doesn't mean it's not happening. On the contrary, we should expect a huge underbelly of human rights abuses in these countries that are not reported.

Here's another Guardian article (if you're willing to read the Guardian after dissing the earlier article) about problems in Qatar: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/oct/23/q...