[yunohn]

I love HN threads where the complainer is knowingly using an old device on power mode, while complaining about performance… all while the responder is using a custom de-googled niche ROM and claiming somehow it works flawlessly.

I always wonder how non-HNers use such software, if even the dedicated people are struggling.

[seized]

Well as a counterpoint, I have bog standard Pixel 5 still on Android 11 and Signal works perfectly.

[vbezhenar]

iPhone SE is an extremely powerful phone. AFAIR it uses iPhone 6S CPU. iPhone 7 CPU beat Intel Core i7700K in some benchmarks, just to put a comparison.

Not sure how much degraded battery affects it. I recently got my iPhone 8 degraded because of battery and honestly I didn't notice anything.

Even my old iPhone 4S is a little beast. I remember playing Asphalt racing game. It pushed it to 60 FPS and its graphics was stunning, better than need for speed. If phone can render AAA game at 60 FPS but struggles with some chat app, this chat app does not respect is users. I mean it's just a bunch of grey squares with some text and lame shadows. DOS on i386 could render it fast enough.

Sometimes I can't decide who's more crazy - me who demands adequate performance from simplistic apps or people who accept this state of things.

[NavinF]

> iPhone 7 CPU beat Intel Core i7700K in some benchmarks

Ehhh that's a >5 year old CPU. I wouldn't describe it as "extremely powerful" even on a phone.

Anecdotally, going from an iPhone 8 to a 13 pro max was a night and day difference. Not just because the CPU was noticably faster, but because the 120Hz display makes everything more responsive. Sure you don't need that hardware for a chat app but unless some product guy forces the issue, devs aren't even gonna notice fps dropping below 120 because most of them don't use ancient phones.

[kiwijamo]

I am using stock ROM for my S21 and it also work flawlessly. Not sure whether the ROM has anything to do with it.