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by bjhartin 1321 days ago
I think given the gravity of the atrocities being committed, and the imminent threat to democracy, things like audits should be a distant secondary concern.

I'm certainly not concerned about the dollars being used to fight Putin because I think the costs of not doing otherwise would far outweigh them.
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AzzieElbab 1321 days ago
What if the prices are inflated and we are not sending as much as we could?
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ethanbond 1321 days ago
When we see any indication whatsoever of abuse/lost weapons/etc, then we can discuss audits. So far there has been not one single photo anywhere of any US-provided weapons leaking from Ukraine.
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AzzieElbab 1320 days ago
That is not entirely true. According to Ukrainian sources (Kiev Independent) there were at least 2 high profile incidents. 1 - US supplied weapons popping up in Finland, 2 - someone tried to ship a helicopter out of Odesa. But this is not what I am saying at all. How would you even know how funds are being used? A manufacturer can hike prices of say ammo 10x, and as result Ukraine would get 10x less of it
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ethanbond 1319 days ago
Not sure if you’re shilling on purpose but 1) no, Kiev Independent never reported on foreign supplied guns in Finland, “New Voice of Ukraine” did, using a statement by Finnish FBI (NBI) that was mischaracterized and explicitly corrected by NBI about 7 days ago. They say they are watching closely but have no evidence of what you’re alleging. 2) Couldn’t find anything about the helicopter, link?

You can “just ask questions” like that one about any item in any budget on the planet with the net effect of stalling everything we need to accomplish as a society, so I don’t really give that approach much credence. No reason to suspect a particularly bad or particularly important instance here and it’s especially suspect coming from people who’ve already indicated they don’t support US involvement in such conflicts.

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AzzieElbab 1314 days ago
who do you think I am shilling for? Pretty sure Kiyv Independent twitted about this https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/10/31/mi-2-helicopter-disco... maybe deleted later
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