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by delusional 1318 days ago
And the owners what the market wants. Really you, the consumer, is responsible!
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Look we were all just following orders.
Chemical and electrical orders
The consumer does what the marketeers want, which do what the executives want, and round we go. It's a vicious cycle of inefficiency from people trying to get larger parts of the pie rather than growing the pie.
Isn't creating new markets the canonical strategy of doing startups?
To be fair, this is how causality works. It's not only about who did it. In practice the ball rolls as much because it was kicked as because it is round and because it isn't made of solid lead.
You might enjoy reading meditations on moloch: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/
After reading the first two chapters I'm hooked. Thanks a ton for recommending it.
Well not really. The owners are ultimately responsible for the company's behavior.
The shareholders will end up with the valuation they end up with, but are immune from prosecution in all but the most explicit and egregious cases.

If they vote in directors, which they suspect will hire a criminal CEO, that’s enough levels of indirection that unless they write a memo explicitly stating to do so (and maybe even then!), the worst outcome for them is the valuation of the company drops to zero and they lose their capital, minus whatever dividends have been pulled out.

That is barring potential criminal conspiracy anyway, which would require concrete actions in furtherance of a conspiracy, which would be difficult to prove without something like that memo.

And yet the owners rely on the market/consumer giving them money to put food on the table and afford a roof over their head. Which is to say, user?id=delusional above was mostly joking.
Corporations respond to profit motives above all else, but there are still humans making those decisions within the corporations