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by Falell 1321 days ago
This has been discussed in comments of Wayland threads on HN for years. People who want to keep using X complain that they still use it, someone replies "All the X maintainers have moved onto Wayland because they think it's the path forward, if you want X to be maintained step up and do it" and it's not clear if anyone ever did.
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pyb 1320 days ago
For whatever reason, it's only in recent years that distros have switched to using Wayland by default. So it's a bit early to completely drop the former display system. But it would be expensive to keep it alive as well !
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ilyt 1320 days ago
It's annoying, X got to the level where it "just works" out of the box for me on my setup and now it's "well, fuck that, we got bored, let's go Wayland!"

And some design decisions are.... iffy at best. Like the fact now every DM have to implement its own mouse(trackpad etc.) management coz "well we don't wanna" (basically, I'm sure Wayland developers have better articulated response to why everyone else involved have to duplicate the code).

Or how many hoops software have to jump just to record screen (or is that fixed now?)

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zamadatix 1320 days ago
Shared code can (and does) exists outside of the compositor or display server protocol. E.g. for your ending question xdg-desktop-portal is the shared resource in use these days.

I think the biggest mistake of Wayland was the rush on early migration for general use before it really had time to soak. The general design and not having everything in the display server itself is perfectly fine.

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NekkoDroid 1320 days ago
1 reason I can think is kinda the same thing with Vulkan. They both are so agnostic to what they run on that they have a minimal set of things that they function with.

In the case of Vulkan its: I interact with the graphics processor, and don't care if you have a display so windowing is an extension and has platform implementations if applicable. And in the case of Wayland its: I am a protocol for managing and displaying windows, and I don't care what kinda inputs you have (example: VR doesn't have classical PC inputs).

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