[jojobas]

The electric motorcycle market is weirdly segmented, with crappy cheap underpowered models, insane expensive ones that do 0-100 in under 3 seconds and nothing in between.

I just want an electric equivalent of "Universal Japanese Motorcycle" and there's none.

[seb1204]

I currently drive an Aprilia scarabeo scooter and over the last 2 years have stopped at my scooter dealer a couple of times. This is Sydney Australia. Out of the 30 or so scooter in the showroom there are 2 or 3 electric. I did test drive one a year ago (can't recall the name) but since I have to go uphill in traffic I want to flow with the traffic and not have morning rush crazy drivers overtake me in unsafe ways. The little engine did not cut it. As with all electric vehicles the start is very powerful but the scooter is quickly out of grunt uphill at +50 km/h. Also, small wheels. With the enormous amount of rain we had here the roads have deteriorated so much that potholes are everywhere and they are deep. So you want larger wheels.

I will keep my eyes open but won't hold my breath. There is no pressure yet from council here as in parent comments mentioned.

[jermaustin1]

When I lived in NYC, a company called Revel had pushed a bunch of electric scooters onto the streets, and they were fabulous. They are pretty beefy, went 25mph which is fast enough for most NYC streets, and had a very decent range (40miles or so). So they aren't a commuter bike for most Americans, but if you live and work in the same city, they are amazing.

The make and model is a Niu NQi from a Chinese scooter manufacturer. I've never seen them outside of NYC and SF, but I'm sure they are legal everywhere in the US. They are a great 50cc moped replacement IMO.

[glogla]

This sadly follows how car EV market is segmented. You have Smart and Polo with <100 km range on one end and Teslas, Porches and ginormous SUVs on the other end, and nothing in between.

[dontlaugh]

There are plenty in between. There’s the expensive Corsa, e208 and ID.3. Then there’s the much cheaper MG4 and soon Ora Cat and BYD Dolphin.

Of course trains still beat them for efficiency, but they’re all much smaller than SUVs.

[aigen001]

Chevrolet has the Bolt EUV and the Equinox coming out soon for around $30k.

Just give it time, there's a lot of people hungry for EVs in that price range.

[jojobas]

Smaller Teslas are somewhere close, but I have high hopes for Toyota and Mitsubishi to get their shit together and start making no-bullshit electric cars.

[Toutouxc]

The company that runs a scooter sharing/rental service in my city uses a "Torrot Muvi", with a 3 kW motor it can keep up with normal city traffic even with two people. Speed is limited to 65 km/h. Looks kinda nice too.

https://torrot.com/en/motorbikes/5/133/muvi

But that would probably be one of the "underpowered" models for you :)

[jojobas]

Well yes, I'm after something that can go in a freeway, a 250cc equivalent.