[ajsnigrutin]

> ...wait until people get tired and cold and things get expensive and nato will very quickly fall apart

This is not far from truth, and not far from actually happening. Politicians (especially german) prioretizing ukraine over their own countries, possibility of actually UK destroying the nordstreams, people getting cold and unable to afford adequate heating, industries (already) closing down, a lot of protests (already happening) and mainsteam politicians pretty much playing the same record (saying the same thing)...

what do they/we (europeans) expect to happen? If the mainstream left and right are doing the same, the only way to change the current situation is to find an "alternative"... back in the '30s, for germans, it was that austrian painter dude, and we all know how that ended, both for ze germans and for the rest of europe... (and me, living in a nearby slavic country, really don't want history to repeat itself).