[bluefirebrand]

> Twitter is 100x the engineering difficulty

Sorry, do you honestly think that Tweets are more complicated than real time video and voice?

At a certain point the difficulty of the problem you are solving far outweighs the difference in scale. And Discord's scale is nothing to sniff at, either.

[rektide]

> Sorry, do you honestly think that Tweets are more complicated than real time video and voice

do you not? have you heard of metcalfe's law? the value of a network is proportional to the square of the nimber of users. so too is the difficulty in supporting & running the vastly more interconnected network.

video is easy as shit. yeah you need bandwidth/transit. but people join & leave infrequently. they are low impact consumers: them joining does not change the total load significantly, it's only a little more linear growth. whatever to that, irrelevant.

twitter is a vastly wider & more connected not-so-micro- cosm. if there are 50m followers, and they tweet, the burden of rippling that event out is huge. tracking & making visible every fav, retweet & reply further escallates the difficulty by more deep deep orders of magnitude.

it's laughable to me that you would try to say discord has a higher event rate than twitter. first, i think thats horseshit, totslly absurdly flat wrong in extreme if you count favs, retweets, et-cetera. but more so, event rate is pointless. it's event receievers that actually count, that matter. and the little intranet micro-world discords are, by any measure, totally pointless & irrelevant by compare versus the all-connected fabric that is twitter. discord has no scale, is itrelevant entirely, in how far it has to spread any given message/event. discord is a large number of the tiniest little fishbowls; it compares not at all to the sea.

[justahuman74]

> video is easy as shit

Agree. We used to just stick a giant metal pole in the air and ask others to do the same with a smaller pole.

[rektide]

It's just data, is my point. Events are harder, require actual processing.

[bluefirebrand]

I'm really curious what you think is so hard about Twitter.

As far as I can tell it is basically a CRUD app with some real time analytics to surface some trends.

You said some stuff about Events bubbling, like if I Retweet something you seem to think there's a lot of complexity there. But as far as I can figure all that does is create a new row in a database somewhere and when someone who follows me fetches their feed, my new retweet gets included in there.

Aside from the scale, what's hard about it? Am I completely missing something?

[fragmede]

"Aside from the hard part, this seems easy".

[bluefirebrand]

Is this even the hard part anymore? In 2006 maybe, but nowadays it seems like scaling is pretty solved. I always feel like scaling is more just expensive than hard.