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If you think it’s ludicrous go ahead and show us the realistic path to avoiding the known and even more catastrophic outcomes of climate change. Not some comically pie in the sky eco idealism. A path that has a chance of actually happening in the real world. The real world where Russia thinks global warming will be good for them.

We’re a decade or more away from peak emissions with best efforts, and that date will be pushed deeper into the future if there is a global recession.

Stratospheric aerosol injection needs more research as it is one of the only viable ways we have to stave off global catastrophe.

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The reality is there is NO single solution that will get us out of this hole. The first thing we need to do is drastically cut our emissions every single way we can, as fast as we can. This is not comic pie in the sky, it's realism.

Squirting acid into the sky is pie in the sky. Nobody knows if or how this might go, because it's impossible to test at less than planetary scale. And again, we come back to the problem. Why does one country, mad person or whatever have the right to decide to spray this toxin across a whole planet?

This is exactly the same faulty thinking about tech solutions that have stalled progress so far, and led to billions wasted on carbon capture tech.

Stop emitting CO2. If we were prepared to reduce our comfort and convenience, stop looking for constant 'growth' and start to plan for a sustainable future, we could turn things around really quickly. But we keep kicking the can down the road, and electing politicians who pay lip service to tackling the crisis.

You know how we know we could do this? Because our pandemic response was unparalleled and comprehensive by and large. And it reduced emissions as a by product by 17% or so.

Geoengineering is just another egotistical pipedream from the tech brigade.

[parkingrift]

This response is absurd idealism at its best.

Just cut emissions, man, it’s that easy! How many bong rips before you typed that out?

> The first thing we need to do is drastically cut our emissions every single way we can, as fast as we can. This is not comic pie in the sky, it's realism.

These two sentences. Round one. Fight!

We can’t even agree to do this in the United States. Russia doesn’t agree that it’s necessary to do this at all. To say you’re handwaving away the challenges here is the understatement of all time.

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Ad hominens are always a delight, don't you think?

The answer to your question is - I never said it would be easy. That's fairly obvious. We cut emissions during the pandemic on a global scale. We survived. Possibly with the right social and political will we could do it again?

I don't have any answers to this, I'm just suggesting that we try the obvious before reaching for the crazy stuff.

No matter what happens, whether we squirt sulphur into the sky or not, we're going to have to reduce emissions. We can't keep pretending it doesn't matter.