[bscphil]

> As for package management in R you can use either Renv or conda. Been coding R for a decade and have always pinned down packages and you could do so well before tooling made it simple as pie.

Right, I get that - but OP was claiming that package management in Python was a "shitshow". It's interesting that a lot of people are responding to my comment by saying "actually you can make package management in R just as easy as in Python, it's just that R programmers tend not to be professionals." Doesn't that just confirm my belief that Python's package management story is actually pretty good?