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by mustache_kimono 1322 days ago
We can go pretty deep in the weeds in a thread that is AFAIK flagged and dead.

> Saying Singal "obviously" operates in good faith is an exaggeration.

From what I've heard and read of Jesse's, he seems to take great pains to be honest and fair. He seems to me to obviously be operating in good faith. Or as I would expect a curious, thoughtful journalist to act. But, yes, you and others may come to other conclusions.

And, unfortunately, my experiences re: Hobbes's journalism have not been as glowing. They've frankly been disappointing. Hobbes seems to lack the very compassion and empathy Singal seems to obviously have. Hobbes tends to paint what seem to me to be good-faith disagreements as grand moral violations.

But I may need to see more and maybe I'm mistaken?

> Singal likes to move the goalposts and accuse people of being "irresponsible" for making straightforwardly true claims

I think you need to be more specific re: this claim. Unsurprisingly, a link to all the subtweets someone has made about Jesse Singal isn't very helpful.

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The word "seems" is kinda the crux of the issue here. Singal has the tone of a curious, thoughtful jouralist who enters into research with no pre-established biases, and Hobbes has the tone of a guy who gets into Twitter arguments. The problem is that tone is not important, what's true is important. You can't determinte the truth just through the tone of the person communicating with you. A tone of thoughtful neutrality doesn't make something true, and a tone of belligerence doesn't indicate a lie.

I discussed the example I was referencing in my response to ggreer. Here's a link to the twitter thread, for clarification: https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/15820924737360076...

I'd like to see an example of what you mean regarding Hobbes. I think that'd help me a lot to understand your position.

Theres a lot to mine here, but I'm really not going to be the one who gets in a tiff with you about this.

I think you need to step away from the keyboard, dude.

Okay, that's just rude.