[sam_lowry_]

In a recent Tweet reply, Elon says that there are 10 people managing for 1 person coding.

Based on my experience in a 2nd tier SV company I believe this to be true

[Macha]

As I saw pointed out elsewhere, with a headcount of only engineers and these alleged 10 managers per engineers, this would leave twitter with like 630 engineers and 6300 managers which is a clearly a drastic underestimation of the number of engineers and that's before you count roles like sales, support, etc.

Don't take everything Elon tweets at face value

[talaketu]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586686935518498816

> There seem to be 10 people "managing" for every one person coding

Take this literally, not as as a ration. - each SWE in a product team has an EM, Dir Eng, VP Eng, PM, Director Product, VP Product, ...

[Macha]

Sure, but that team may have N engineers and those VPs may have N teams, so that doesn't seem so ludicrous for a 7000 person company. Or even 3500 person company by EOD. Certainly in my company there's about a 200:1 engineer:VP engineering ratio, so pointing out every engineer reports to a VP is kind of a meaningless statement

[ghaff]

And there are also finance people, HR people, sales, etc. people. The company is far from entirely engineers, their managers, and the managers of their managers.

[cjrp]

So there's overlap between every developer

[sam_lowry_]

630 coders is quite a lot for what Twitter does.

They do not own datacenters, AFAIK.

[UncleMeat]

So it sounds like exactly zero people who have committed code recently will be fired, right?

[boc]

Right but the people who bring in the money (advertising sales) probably got axed because they don’t write code.

[sam_lowry_]

Rightfully so, because 8€/month for blue stamp needs neither.

[jesuscript]

Depends on how Caligula feels next week.