[AYBABTME]

Yes, isn't that all proof that he's clearly not just a mere average joe? Everyone fails, he fails less than most all of us, and he does really daring things.

We can dislike him all we want for all his flaws, he's going to be in history books. If he wasn't so ruthless about achieving his goals, the moonshots he did achieve would have been failures as well.

We can dislike someone and still recognize their impact, people aren't black or white. Nuanced opinions are possible.

[kshacker]

He fails less because he got lucky at some time and made his money, and then after that he acts like a bully and tries to beat down any opposition. Selling company at 420, what was he penalized? Other allegations, what did he lose? If there was a genuine fear of him losing something substantial, I am pretty sure his attitude will change.

No one is questioning his impact, but the people do question and have the right to question the methods. But we live in a corrupt system, we can point fingers in many directions, and rightly so. He is just one of a breed.

[brandonagr2]

Why should he lose something for _allegations_? Don't we live in a society based on the concept of innocent until proven guilty?

[ClumsyPilot]

he lost multiple lawsuits, and the penalties were pitifull

[BeefWellington]

> Yes, isn't that all proof that he's clearly not just a mere average joe?

I'm not sure anyone ever considered him the average joe. He was born into privilege for a start.