[MBCook]

I’m getting more and more iffy on Amazon. I love the convenience but the fact that they’re hiding the real merchants and so much fraud goes on is pushing me away. Also raising Prime prices to add more services I don’t want but have to pay for.

I miss the old days when everything I bought from Amazon came from Amazon and was trustworthy and not a fake.

Their terrible worker treatment isn’t endearing in any way either.

[smoldesu]

> the fact that they’re hiding the real merchants

> Their terrible worker treatment isn’t endearing in any way either

Aren't these also things Apple struggles with?

[MBCook]

I don’t see how #1 applies to Apple at all.

#2 is a problem with companies Apple contracts with. And Apple holds those suppliers to high standards, partly because of past attention.

The dirty little secret is everyone uses Foxcon and other companies like them. MS does (did?) for Xboxes. Other computer makers. Electronics device makers. Everyone. Very few companies have their own factories they run top-to-bottom.

But the headlines are pointed at Apple. That gets clicks. Do those other companies try to keep worker standards up the way Apple does? No one covers that, do they.

But Amazon owns the warehouses. Amazon sets their labor standards. Maybe there are subcontractors for the workers or divers. But it’s 100% Amazon’s control. Amazon didn’t contract everything out to a logistics company. Amazon IS the logistics company.

That’s a very big difference in my book.

[bloomark]

> Their terrible worker treatment isn’t endearing in any way either

Yeah but they're Chinese workers, so people are happy to look the other way /s

[jamesredd]

Amazon has free delivery over 25$. I cancelled prime a few years ago and don’t miss it at all. You just have to wait a couple more days at most.

[ocdtrekkie]

If you live somewhere everyone else has Prime, you'll usually get free super saver items in two days or less as well. I don't pay for Prime but since the truck is on my street every day, my stuff gets dropped off quickly anyhow.

[jamesredd]

I actually like waiting a few more days though, it decreases my tendency towards impulsive buying.

[ocdtrekkie]

I get that benefit, but I feel it's in the way of having to find $25 worth of items before placing the order. A lot of times I'll change my mind on that $8 item before I get there.