[prottog]

> Being productive is not a good

Perhaps you mean that being maximally productive -- that is, seeking productivity over all other goals in life -- is not a good? Because productivity is definitely a good. Without it, all crumbles away to the natural state, which is chaotic and for human purposes "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short".

[jeliotj]

No, I meant what I said exactly. The product might be a good; that can be debated. But the action itself is not intrinsically good.

What makes an action good? It always or necessarily produces good things. Very few actions are good in themselves.

As to the Hobbes quote: too much for now! I'm at work. :)