[Imnimo]

The ability of language models to do zero-shot tasks like this is cool and all, but there is no way you should actually be doing something like this on data you care about. Like think about how much compute is going into trying to autofill a handful of zip codes, and you're still getting a bunch of them wrong.

[dylan604]

I've used/added the USPS API into a system and it took practically no time at all to do it. I'm guessing that is significantly less time than building an AI tool. What's worse is that the thing that takes the least time to implement actually provides good data.

[Petersipoi]

Obviously adding the USPS API to your tool would take less time than building an AI tool. But the AI tool is infinitely more powerful for almost anything other than dealing with addresses.

So the question isn't which one you can add to your tool faster. The question is, if I already have this AI tool setup, is it worth setting up the USPS API to go from 95% accuracy to 99.9% accuracy. For countless applications, it wouldn't be. Obviously if you need to scale and need to ensure accuracy, it's a different story.

[dylan604]

> For countless applications, it wouldn't be.

If having something like the zip code not be accurate, then what's the point of having the zip code in your data? People writing code to store zips/addresses are doing it to not not be able to send/verify/etc. They are doing so that the can, but if the data is wrong then they can't.

What countless applications that ask for a zip code/mailing address and don't need it to be accurate? I would then say that any that you name would actually not need the data in the first place. If your hoover it up just to sell later, wouldn't it be worth more to be valid? So again, I'm right back to why do you need it?

[mritchie712]

yeah, determining the zip for an address is a really bad example.

Better one would be "based on these three columns, generate a cold outbound email for the person..."

it would suck to be on the receiving end of those, but the use case makes much more sense.

[cycomachead]

I've been wondering about this... It definitely doesn't feel great to be on the receiving end of something auto-generated. But a "unique" message is at least more interesting to read, and doesn't feel quite as frustrating.

A yet if P(someone unknown is a robot) gets too large, it's going to be a weird adjustment period.

[pbmango]

Microsoft and Google both have excellent formulas for dates - and are getting there for addresses. Right now - the most useful things you can accomplish in sheets center around what the underlying models are good at - general inference and generation based on text. Anything needing exact outputs should be a numeric formula or programmatic.

Non-exact outputs are actually a feature and not a bug for other use cases - but this takes a bit of use to really see.

[layer8]

Yeah, I think energy efficiency considerations will become important at some point. Or at least they should.

[ajmurmann]

They only will if we price in the true cost of energy including negative externalities