[seabea]

Many of Ive's initial designs of products were fantastic and great examples of Dieter Ram's principles of design.

Unfortunately I think he drank a bit too much of his own kool-aid and "innovated" on the original designs in ways that were user hostile and didn't serve to complement the function of the products.

[jmisavage]

His best work was done when Jobs was there to challenge him or reign him in.