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by heavytea21475 1327 days ago
This seems really well built. It's fast and responsive. It looks nice. But I just don't understand what I would use it for.

It seems like the idea is to build a database of people, movies, Wikipedia articles and such and then be able to find them via search/links. But I'm not at all sold on why I need this in my life.

Is there a way to make the value clearer? Am I just not in the target audience? Who is going to see this and say "TAKE MY MONEY" and why?

I'm thinking of products that were instant sign-ups for me...

Spotify: For one price, listen to all the music on Earth whenever you want. TAKE MY MONEY!

Gmail: Fast email with 2 GB storage. This was such an instant sign-up they had to make an invite system to slow people getting access.

Maybe could add something like Lichess: Chess training and games, with modern UX, offered open source as a public good. I mean, if you're at all interested in chess, that's an instant sign-up, right?

Trying to say, this idea of presenting a clear value isn't limited to big players like Spotify and Gmail, but can also be done by smaller companies if the value presented is really clear.

What should someone see that makes them instantly recognize they need this in their life, because that's what I'm totally missing here.

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> But I just don't understand what I would use it for.

Isn’t that clearly stated in the name of the post: It “helps you remember shit you are interested in.”

Personally I run into interesting things all the time, and it seems great to be able to have a place to store them so I don’t forget about them. That’s clear value to me. I’m honestly a bit puzzled how you don’t see value.

For me, I would need an app in order to start using this though. Otherwise it’s just to much of a hassle to add stuff (which means I wouldn’t do it).

What confused me about "remember shit that you are interested in" is that I use several different kinds of apps for that already. Google, Pocket, a note-taking app, a list app. Heck, Anki fits the description as well. I watched the short video and it reminded me the way I used to use bookmarks in the browser, organizing big discouraging lists of things that I thought I should follow up on but rarely did. The option to subscribe to news about a topic by clicking a button in an app feels positively dystopian; if I'm not interested enough in a topic to find and follow specific sources, then I'm not interested enough, period. I need an app to help me filter and prune the demands on my attention, not carelessly expand them.

  >Personally I run into interesting things all the time, and it seems great to be able to have a place to store them so I don’t forget about them. 
>I use several different kinds of apps for that already. Google, Pocket, a note-taking app, a list app. Heck, Anki fits the description as well.

I've found an unexpected use case here for Telegram. I have Telegram open all the time in the background on all my computers and mobile devices. It has a 'Saved Messages' feature, which shows up in your contacts list like another conversation. Whenever I come across 'stuff' [or is 'shit' the cool word?] I want to remember it's really easy to just copy a link... or image/video URL... or some text I'm interested in... or scribble down an idea I've had and send/share it to 'Saved Messages' in Telegram.

Then, when I've got time to catch up and digest. I just open the 'Saved Messages' conversation in Telegram and there's all my stuff... er... 'shit' including; web previews, photos, embedded videos, etc. And it's there, instantly synced across all my devices. I also find myself using this as a really quick method of sending files between mobile devices and desktop/laptops. For me Telegram syncs instantly and 100% reliably --which is more than I've ever found Google Drive and its ilk to be capable of.

Yeah, Saved Messages is that unexpected feature for me too. I also use it to easily send photos from my phone to my laptop. It makes it convenient because Telegram is right at the top in the Share options, and it’s async, so I can send something now and use it whenever.
can Telegram send the full quality photo file? I recently realised that Signal does not, and couldn't see a way to do so.
It can. There's a check box on the telegram desktop to disable compression and on mobile you can send the image as a "file" attachment as opposed to an "image attachment".
I do the same thing using Obsidian and their Sync service, except I just save the file to disk and the magic happens. Very handy.
It's a PWA at the moment so it works quite well on mobile. But proper mobile versions will come in the future.
Why? What does a "proper mobile version" get you?
Yeah, my take is that the hierarchy is

  web site >> mobile web site >> mobile (cr)app
With the modification that if you have a very small phone sometimes the mobile site comes out ahead.

To take an example, right when a search has brought you to something you want to read on reddit, reddit distracts you with a popup telling you it is ‘better’ to use the app. Well, once you’ve installed the app they punch you in the face right away because you’ll have a very hard time finding the content that led you to reddit. (What did you think would happen, honestly?)

There are some cases where you really need a mobile app but if I have a choice at all I use the web, particularly if it involves viewing content or ordering something.

I find apps almost always preferable. Not only do I get dedicated backup, the apps are usually better for mobile UX. Of course, that excludes crappy apps like Reddit’s, in those cases there are often 3rd-party-apps.
Dedicated backup?
Less battery, memory, and bandwidth consumption. A Ui that fits the platform. An easy way for your users to pay for the software.
Mainly just a better user experience. For now I think I will just use capacitor to package it as an app for the app stores. A lot of people just want to be able to install it from the app store.
Try this one? https://cubox.cc/ I use it everyday and when I want to collect, I just use Command + Shift + X!
Thanks I will give it a try. Looks good.
Browser bookmarks are very convenient to add. So why would I use this app instead of just bookmarking pages?
It's definitely not for everyone. The idea is that you can track things you are interested over your life, when you add new content that is related to something you have added in the past, it creates a link automatically resurfacing the old content. It basically build a knowledge graph of all your interests. Thanks for your feedback.
Is this supposed to be limited to things like people, movies, shows, etc.? It seemed that way based on what search box would accept. I couldn't even add a book via search. And there was mention of articles / blogs... but there's no way to import something like that from what I could tell, so it would be all manual entry which seems to defeat the purpose.
One thing use case I can think of is a private detective who is tracking people. It would be a good place to keep notes or links to public information databases, property records, contact information, interview notes, etc.

Another one would be authors that are writing books that involve a lot of places, things, or people that need to be either accurately described or, in the case of sci-fi or fantasy, have an imagined description that needs to be recorded for continuity.

I'm imagining it sort of like an online version of a file cabinet where you have folders on all kinds of topics filled with notes and printouts. A more digital analogy would be a visual, annotated bookmark folder.

I have some folders like this at work. I need to access a lot of various reference manuals or standards that are difficult or impossible to find online, either because they come from a vendor under NDA or come from databases that are expensive or just hard to maintain continuous access to. Sometimes they are scans of hardcopies that I've had to request because the information is just so old. Whenever I get my hands on something I know I'll probably need again, I save a copy to my folder system. I'd love some sort of better filing system for these that would allow me to annotate the documents and provide some sort of synopsis that would help me remember why it's useful or why I used it in the past.

Right now the main datasource is wikipedia and wikidata. I am working on adding more datasources.
Perhaps it’s your vantage point. I just saw this on mobile, and if it does what I think it does, I can’t wait to try it out. At least for me personally I think this may be exactly what I need for knowledge (interest) management.
I would be curious to know how it goes?
<<This seems really well built. It's fast and responsive. It looks nice.

I second that. It was really the first time in a while where I did not have to wait just to see the landing page. It is a little sad that is not considered normal, but here we are.

> Gmail: Fast email with 2 GB storage.

My 2c: Storage and speed are nowhere near as important as spam blocking... Which Gmail is superior at, and the primary reason for it's choice

At the time of its release, around 2002, space was the killer feature. People were either using outlook express with their ISP email and losing all emails frequently when upgrading or changing ISPs, or hotmail which only had 4MB of storage in the free plan. It was normal to scroll through your emails, make sure you didn’t miss anything, and then delete all emails. I think outgoing emails were automatically deleted after 30 days too.