[jrochkind1]

Replace "lying" with "misleading" then, I'd call shilling without disclosure "misleading" without a doubt.

I am just discussing the ethics of "influencers" generally rather than trying to win a debate necessarily, but I think the picture the original commenter paints is largely accurate, and you are maybe quibbling over semantics of "lying" vs "misleading" that don't seem to be fundamental to the question to me.

But yeah, we have not much more to say on it I think.