| Eh. I could offer anecdotes ( as I am sure many would as well ) about office life and how much time is spent pretending to work by engaging in vaunted water cooler discussions that recent anti-WFH corporate propaganda had the balls to brand as spontaneous collaborations. And I am saying this with over 15 years of experience in corporate bullshittery. I honestly do not count "is he in chair staring at screen" as productivity. I count successfully finished projects as such, which brings to question what those managers are trying to measure if they are clearly failing so badly at this. I said before and I will say it again. Managers in US had an easy ride for the past 7 or so decades. Now they are actually asked to work instead of 'managing by walking' and they can't handle it. They need 'throw away their skill set due to Covid'. See twin trail of tears in my eyes? Managers have all the tools they need and then some. The sheer amount of corporate monitoring software on corporate lappy is beyond astounding. Our manager does not seem to care, but I am horrified to think what other managers use it for. It is very, very intrusive. In other words, if managers can't measure even with those ridiculous and invasive tools at their disposal, what are they doing exactly? <<I think Satya is on point when he talked about what employers say about productivity and what their managers think is actually happening. Satya may be repeating what the managers are saying, but managers are saying that they have to actually work for morale and motivation. The horror. <<Those who are being far less productive, though, are kinda ruining it for the rest of us and lots of managers know it. Well, is it not manager's job to motivate and coach the less productive employee? |