[minraws]

WTH my man, not just Tornedo(Or whatever) and such are criminal, but any fraud or scam in crypto should also be considered criminal.

And I know atleast 5 banks with over 1 Billion in cap, went down. Not sure how that's not over 1 percent my man. But sure hell there are issues with Crypto as it stands.

Also I can for certain say more than 1 percent of fiat is used in illegal stuff. Not sure how crypto is doing so much better... When all I hear are stories of Hacks, Frauds and Rugpulls.

You can also use GNU Taler if you just want zero knowledge and mostly permissionless...

[erik_seaberg]

It’s not permissionless for payees, and seems completely dependent on certain German/French/Swiss banks supporting a protocol unfamiliar to me.