[savanaly]

I think React is better described as a library than a framework. Frameworks for libraries sounds entirely reasonable to me.

[davnicwil]

not only reasonable but an inevitable conclusion I'd argue.

I've been waiting for the current crop of React frameworks (of which Remix is my current favourite but they all bring cool thing to the table) to appear since the early days of using it - it was only a matter of time.

First the library, then the patterns, then the ecosystem of add ons implementing those patterns, then the projects that scaffold sensible sets of those together for you along with a build setup etc, and finally... the all in one framework that does it all out the box.

[Traubenfuchs]

> the all in one framework that does it all out the box

Wouldn't Angular and Vue count as cohesive "batteries included" frameworks?

Having to work on your own build setup feels very inane.

[ddyevf635372]

+1 for Ember.js as well :)

[super256]

React does indeed describe itself as a library.

[eurasiantiger]

It is closer to Twig than Symfony.