[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

What if I don't care about water proofing? Should all phones be glued just because a very small minority of users actually want waterproofing?

I don't see why there can't just be a separate market segment for people who are willing to sacrifice some ease of repair for ruggedness.

[olalonde]

You are allowed to have different preferences, which is what a free market is all about. Right to repair regulations threaten that free market.

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

That argument would make sense if there were repairable flagship phones, which there really aren't at the moment.

Unregulated free markets are widely accepted to be a bad idea. E-waste is a serious problem that the free market can't solve on its own. Regulation is necessary.

[olalonde]

It could also be evidence that your preferences are not shared by the rest of the market.

I believe the PinePhone prioritizes repairability but it's obviously not as popular as the iPhone.

> Unregulated free markets are widely accepted to be a bad idea. E-waste is a serious problem that the free market can't solve on its own. Regulation is necessary.

Why is e-waste a serious problem (as opposed to other types of waste)? Couldn't this problem be solved by improving e-waste disposal processes?

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

The fact that democracies are starting to push for right to repair suggests to me that this preference is becoming much more prevalent. I think most people would be happy to save a ton of money being able to repair instead of replace expensive electronics.

Improved? Yes. Solved? Not really. Recycling is not a perfect process by any stretch. Producing less E-waste is just as important because global consumption of the resources that go into it is currently very unsustainable. E-waste management right now is not just unideal, it's more or less a joke. In 2021 less than 20% of E-waste in Europe was being collected and recycled. Recycling is hard. It requires changes at almost all levels of society. Designing repairable electronics on the other hand is essentially a solved problem that the industry has done less and less due to cost. Because the free market ultimately is best at optimising for lowering cost, and not other things like sustainability, safety, and so on. That's where regulations and taxes come in.

[AlmostAnyone]

Most people I know have a drawer full of working phones they don't like anymore. I really don't think the majority of people are looking for repairability as much as you think.

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

First of all that's just anecdotal. Second I'm not convinced that's an effect of preferences as much as it is an effect of planned obsolescence making these devices useless in practice due to lack of software updates and upgradability.

And third, if we're sharing anecdotes, i also talk to a lot of people who ended up switching phones due to a dead jack or USB port, and have drawers full of fully functioning phones except for a single, cheap, broken component.

[AlmostAnyone]

Sure thing, but don't make waterproofing impossible in your fight for right to repair, please.

[scarface74]

If the premise behind right go repair is partially to increase the longevity of your device and prevent ewaste, water resistance is part of that.

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

Water resistance != waterproofing.

There's no need for glue to ensure water resistance. With a repairable(easily opened, non-soldered parts) phone it would be much easier to repair water damage anyway if you accidentally dropped it into water or something. Most people have no need for keeping their device on them while swimming.