[pedrolll]

I think the idea that there's a war between human and nature is a very modern one. People in pre-modern times didn't see themselves as separate from nature, they were nature.

Just like other (what we see as distinct) entities in nature do not see themselves as separate from anything else. They go about their business, transform energy to their bodies (eat). If and when they cease to exist, then it's not a big deal.

[jerf]

I don't mean war in a philosophical sense, I mean in a psychological and practical sense. Life was hard. So hard they don't even think to complain about how hard life was because they can't even conceive of the life we live.

My father is into genealogy, and while it doesn't float my boat I'm at least interested enough to listen. He shows me family records, including births and deaths, and even just the late 19th century is a freaking bloodbath by modern standards. Infant after infant after toddler listed in the death records, just to name one example.