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by isitmadeofglass 1331 days ago
> I don't think there's any society in history that has not allowed more freedom in speech then in action.

Speech is action. Therefore axiomatically every society has always allowed more freedom in action than in speech because speech in being action is a subset of actions. You may be thinking about the difference between taking about a thing and doing the thing mentioned, and there there are obviously any cases where speaking about it is allowed but doing it isn’t, but that doesn’t mean you are more free in speech than in action, imagine how foolish that ends up sounding in Comparison between freedom of ownership and speech. “I am free to say that I own my butler but I am not free to actually own him, this shows I am more free in speech than i am in ownership!”

> Kindergarten kids are taught that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me".

Is a lie repeatedly told to children yes. And kids are taught to be nice otherwise the magical chimney man won’t give them gifts. The saying is obviously wrong to anyone who’s no longer a kid. Word can cause very real long term psychological trauma. The reason parents tell their kids this saying to get them to ignore the very real pains they feel when bullied ignored or neglected. That’s just bad parenting, and doesn’t really have any relevance in a discussion about freedom of speech.