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by luckylion 1330 days ago
I've watched the numbers in Turkey over the past year, and it's mind-boggling. What I don't understand is: how do people get by?

Lots of Germans have little savings, don't own their home, and have relatively small margins with their income. The ~10% (or maybe 15, if you exclude some of the wonky things that keep them down) are being felt. I cannot imagine how lots of people would get by with 80% or 100% inflation in a year.

How do Turks do it? Are young people moving back in with their parents or getting more room mates? Are they taking on debt, or selling valuables to pay for rent and food? From afar, it looks surprisingly stable. Germans are said (and correctly so, imo) to submit to authority, but I'd expect a lot more action here with the level of inflation Turkey is seeing. Am I just not hearing about the instability it causes, or are Turks just weathering it but aren't rising up yet?

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We lower our standards, lots of middle class families don't eat red meat anymore for example. We don't eat out. We sell assets, take on debt.

Young people don't move out in the first place. Lots of people move back in.

We got immensely poorer, it is tough out here. You see beggars everywhere, especially low income families were hit the worst.

We live under Erdogan, if we try to rise up, we get shut down. All public protests are de facto banned, with the new disinformation act I am risking a jail sentence even by writing this comment. You can even go to jail if you like a tweet of a whistleblower for example.

That sounds bad. Granted, I don't keep up with the news that much, but what I do see (in Germany) is mostly stories on the "I won't buy that car I've been wanting to"-level, absolute poverty is rarely shown (unless with an upbeat story about e.g. enterprising metal collectors). While Erdogan certainly isn't praised, the chilling effects and the expanding authoritarianism are barely mentioned.

Fingers crossed that the next elections will bring some change.

Yeah buying a car is not possible for many. The minimum wage is around 5500 try. An entry level car costs around 850k try now. More than 60% of the population works at minimum wage. So you have to work for 154 months without having any expenses and saving all your salary just to buy a car. Car prices are much higher than europe because of exorbitant taxes. (We have 175% tax on cars, same goes for phones, alcohol etc.)
"We lower our standards, lots of middle class families don't eat red meat anymore for example. We don't eat out."

"Young people don't move out in the first place. Lots of people move back in."

Sounds like Canada