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by such12 1324 days ago
> (including the supreme court)

This seems like paranoid thinking. The Supreme Court has shifted ideologically to the right, but I haven’t seen any evidence they are part of a conspiracy to end democracy.

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Here's some evidence.

They ruled to allow state legislatures to override voters by changing state law to allow that:

https://news.yahoo.com/analysis-supreme-court-tilted-electio...

and an upcoming case to watch, where they're expected to further undermine laws:

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1106866830/supreme-court-to-t...

> Here's some evidence.

These are opinion pieces.

> They ruled to allow state legislatures to override voters by changing state law to allow that

No they didn’t. Nothing in the pieces linked states this.

> and an upcoming case to watch, where they're expected to further undermine laws:

This isn’t a meaningful sentence.

OK, if you don't believe commentators or legal analysts, then read the actual supreme court rulings and the case matter for the upcoming case. They are public record.
"These are opinion pieces."

That refer to facts such as throwing out the voting rights act, and the decision on gerrymandering? Maybe try reading the opinion pieces??

Nobody has ‘thrown out’ the voting rights act. That’s an opinion. Part of it has not been upheld as constitutional.

The decision on gerrymandering is real.

But you seem to be thinking this is evidence of a conspiracy to end democracy rather than just normal bias. Even that piece admits that gerrymandering was invented by the democrats. This is just normal US politics at work.

"Nobody has ‘thrown out’ the voting rights act. That’s an opinion. Part of it has not been upheld as constitutional."

Semantics.

"The decision on gerrymandering is real."

Yes. It is.

"But you seem to be thinking this is evidence of a conspiracy to end democracy rather than just normal bias. Even that piece admits that gerrymandering was invented by the democrats. This is just normal US politics at work."

Do you not understand the difference between democratic and Democratic? Otherwise, what's the relevance of gerrymandering having been invented by Democrats. The court upholding it is anti democratic

> Do you not understand the difference between democratic and Democratic? Otherwise, what's the relevance of gerrymandering having been invented by Democrats.

That it's a normal part of US politics engaged in by all political parties.

> The court upholding it is anti democratic.

Is it? If it's a normal part of US politics, that is far from clear.

The point is that it's not evidence of a conspiracy to end democracy.

Hmm, why don't you wait until they let state legislatures throw out elections to be so sure?
You mean they haven’t actually done anything to undermine election results?
I meant exactly what I wrote. Feel free to let me know if there is something about it you don't understand.
They did already? There was a court case when the legislatures gave themselves the power to throw out elections. It went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court ruling lets them throw out elections.

Prior attempts by states to do this in 2020 and 2000 failed in court, or led to the winning candidate (Gore) conceding, respectively. The 2020 standards that caused the election results to be upheld no longer apply in the states that changed their laws to take advantage of the new supreme court ruling.

What am I missing?

> They did already?

You seem fairly literate. Why would you ask this?

So then no they didn't.