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by ninethirty 1337 days ago
After the Alex Jones verdict, can't they just get sued into oblivion for allowing xyz speech? Or more formally, on a long enough timeline it will revert to what it was because of lawsuits and threats of lawsuits.
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I probably missed something, but didn't Alex lose because he didn't comply with discovery? My understanding was they never got as far as figuring out if his speach was a problem.
Some legal commentors say nothing changed, Cernovich and others say the bar for defamation has been lowered;

Kanye Will 'Learn What It's Like To Be' Alex Jones Amid George Floyd Suit https://www.newsweek.com/kanye-west-alex-jones-george-floyd-...

As others pointed out, the discovery was to produce something that didn't exist.

Section 230 is still the law of the land, so the answer is an absolute no.
That precedent was already there from Tumbler.

But Alex Jones was quite a bit more than just "speech someone doesn't like". It was publicly saying what is factually false, that defamed/slandered people, repeatedly, for a decade.

There's a reason why libel and slander laws are on the books. That stuff wasn't protected. The Alex Jones ruling didn't change that.

There's just data and interpretations of the data. Using the word "fact" like it wins an argument is for elementary school.
It was a real school shooting. Kids really died. That's fact, not just "data and interpretation".

Alex Jones lied about that. They were really lies, not just "interpretations".

You sound like you don't like that. I'm not sure if it's because you believe Alex Jones, or because you don't like the idea of "fact" and "truth", or what. But some things are actually true, and others are actually false, whether you like that or not.

P.S. Calling someone's position "for elementary school" is not actually an argument. In fact, it's the kind of arguing that would be found in a junior high, even if they use different insults there.

afaik Alex Jones came to the conclusion that Sandy Hook was a psy-op (then I think he changed his mind later); anyone who was not directly involved is simply interpreting video footage. I don't love or hate Alex Jones; I think you play fast and loose with the words "truth" and "facts" and you don't know Jones intentions, so it seems unjust to call him "deliberately lying".