[L0stLink]

I honestly cannot see the value in ReMarkable after the Kindle Scribe announcement. The kindle has a newer faster, 300dpi display vs 226dpi on the ReMarkable. I am waiting on reviews before ordering one for myself, but I can already see that Kindle Scribe is going to be disruptive for this segment.

[pornel]

I think ReMarkable's resolution is perfectly fine, and a higher DPI wouldn't make a significant difference.

However, it needs a better contrast. I can't tell if Scribe beats it on that, because in Scribe product videos their screen seems similarly dull, but other product shots have contrast so high it looks photoshopped.

[wiseowise]

Supposedly higher latency and worse experience when writing(also supposedly). I own Remarkable 2, and unless they can replicate same paper feeling, it won’t a replacement for Remarkable.

But it is a nice eBook reader, yes.

[BossingAround]

RM user base seems like a very niche Venn diagram:

1) People that love the feel of fountain pen writing.

2) People that love having all of their notes electronically.

I love what writing feels like, so I have a pen and paper and study offline (I typically throw out my notes). Generally, if you belong to just one of the two categories, you don't need to pay the RM premium.

[knaik94]

The kindle will be using wacom emr which is more then adequate for most people. I never had a problem with the technology before and I don't think it will be practically worse. I can't imagine most people expect it to feel like writing on paper.

[wiseowise]

That’s one of the main selling points of Remarkable. It was never targeted at “most” people.

[xd1936]

The reMarkable and the Kindle both use Wacom EMR, but that doesn't determine latency on these devices. It's all about the display's refresh rate... That's always been the Achilles Heel of ePaper. Honestly, the reMarkable 2 is perfectly fine for me.

[L0stLink]

I am hoping the carta 1200/1250 display which ever it ends up shipping with will help to reduce latency, but for my use case which is more reading and less note taking it is seemingly perfect.

[cal85]

I bought a Remarkable 2 - the UI design wasn’t there for me yet and I only persisted with it for a few days, but I am a big believer in the product category and would certainly give the next one a try. However, I think it will be forever niche. Not many people have any interest in writing by hand, and of those that do, only an few are so keen on digital organisation that they would buy one of these. It seems like a permanently small (but well heeled and discerning) target market, something for boutique tech companies to focus on, not giants. So I find it weird that Amazon is targeting this market at all - I don’t see how they plan to grow it into something big enough for them to care about. I feel like Kindle Scribe might just be an experiment that they will kill in a few years.

Anyone got any thoughts on this? Does Amazon have some big strategy that I’m missing here? How do they plan to persuade large numbers of people to buy into digital handwriting?

[graphe]

> Anyone got any thoughts on this? Does Amazon have some big strategy that I’m missing here? How do they plan to persuade large numbers of people to buy into digital handwriting?

Have you use office 365 or onenote? An iPad with the Apple pen recently? Any digital notes are organized by default, the latency and poor refresh rate makes eink impossible for replacing notebooks to me, but an LCD works great. Handwriting is already mainstream, as is using it on computer.

If you’re asking about Amazon most buyers of kindle fall between either upgrading every cycle and never using it, never upgrading their kindle keyboard, or more commonly never used it more than 3hr in total. Kindle sales are going to be good either way since type 1 buyers love tech for tech.

[necovek]

They've got a bigger screened Kindle, and included a pen with it.

They don't need to convince anyone to start taking notes on their Kindles, they just need to get people who want larger screens for reading to get them. Pen is a nice extra. And sure, there's 10% (pulled out of my behind, citation missing) of Scribe buyers who'd get it for note taking.

reMarkable is probably rightfully concerned since Amazon can easily outprice them, which they are already doing.

[penguin_booze]

Same here: waiting for reviews before I jump on the wagon. Although, my primary motivation is to read PDF documents, especially the 2-column ones, than the prospect of taking notes or drawing. I hope it won't disappoint.

[b112]

Not sure I want ads on my screen while trying to take notes, or ad popups randomly when starting software.

This is a kindle for you, so why would this be different?

[bkishan]

I get that its a dig on Amazon, but Im 100% sure they won't display ads on notes.

[criddell]

IMHO 10" is too small for PDFs. Now that Amazon is after their market, they should go someplace that Amazon isn't: devices with letter / A4 sized display.

I believe Sony and Fujitsu sell a 13.3" epaper device and of course the iPad is available in that size. There's a whole lot of space between the very limited $700 Quaderno and the super powerful $2000 iPad Pro.