[klausjensen]

According to your numbers, 310 civilians died in the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine from 2018-2021. Obviously 310 too many, but civilian losses are unfortunately an ugly part of warfare, because war takes place where people live. And of course there are higher numbers of casualties in occupied territories, because that is what they are fighting about.

But to put that 310 number into perspective...

458 civilians were exhumed from mass-graves in Bucha in Ukraine. Many summarily executed (gunshots to the back of the head), with hands tied behind their backs, clear signs of torture etc etc.

That was just ONE village under Russian occupation. Just ONE. The same or similar happened many, many other places, most of them still in Russian-occupied territories, where the mass-graves have not yet been exhumed.

When one day Mariupol is liberated and the truth comes out about what there, it will make Bucha look like a school-yard argument.