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by Nathanba 1327 days ago
>use webpack for bundling and typescript for typechecking

This is my point, that's what I'm doing. Webpack does the typechecking and the bundling together, you don't get broken bundles when the typecheck didn't succeed (unless you really want to, you can configure that too).

>and someone else pointed out that esbuild drops typechecking.

yes I know, these "faster" bundlers all drop typechecking which results in these unfair comparisons. Then I always end up spending a somewhat large amount of time checking these tools out only to realize that they are not doing a fair comparison.
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dietmtnview 1327 days ago
> you don't get broken bundles when the typecheck didn't succeed

ah, I do TDD. easier to let tests give me runtime and behavioral feedback instead of refreshing/setting up hot reloads. I could see how it's frustrating without that. super frustrating to do a quick experiment/demo and satisfy ts if the compiler breaks all the time tho.

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Nathanba 1327 days ago
>super frustrating to do a quick experiment/demo and satisfy ts if the compiler breaks all the time tho.

the ts compiler doesn't break though, I think if I understand you correctly then this might be a relict of javascript-tier thinking/workflow. You're saying that you don't want to deal with the typechecks sometimes, that's not how any other language works. You're essentially saying that you want a build that silently works anyway because you know better than typescript, you know this will still result in correct js even though the compiler is shouting errors at you.

I think this is not the right way to look at this, if this is really a very common usecase then Typescript has failed to make truly useful optional typing. Which is actually something I've believed from the start, I was always perplexed when they claimed to be javascript compatible when that doesn't seem to be true at all, you cannot actually genuinely mix pure untyped js and ts code and have it all work seamlessly together. It always complains about adding any types and so on.

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dietmtnview 1322 days ago
> You're essentially saying that you want a build that silently works anyway because you know better than typescript, you know this will still result in correct js even though the compiler is shouting errors at you.

negative. I use tsc as a safety net, I don't release code that doesn't pass ci/cd which includes a linting/typechecking step. I just know that sometimes it's faster/easier to do an exploration without strict typechecking.

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