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by UI_at_80x24 1330 days ago
I'm surprised there was no mention of copy/paste that existed BEFORE ctrl+c/ctrl+v

ctrl + INS (copy) shift + INS (paste)

IIRC this is a hardware interrupt in much the same way as ctrl+alt+del is. My memory is damn hazy about this (I've used DOS since MS-DOSv3.3) but I think I used that combination back in the DOS days. {instead of using the mouse to select things, shift+CURSOR would do the trick}

This might even be a C=64 trick. I can't remember 100%.

BUT Windows/Linux/BSD _STILL_ honour it's usage. (It's also a handy way to bypass some websites that block right-click & copy/paste.)

I know there are more greybeards on here, so somebody help me nail down from whence CTRL+INS & SHIFT+INS originated.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Common_User_Access

It doesn't pre-date the C/V/X/Z shortcuts, it's just that those conflicted with things like CTRL-C to interrupt.

I don't think hardware interrupts are involved here. It's not a particularly early DOS convention either, Wordstar-style shortcuts were popular before it.

It's not a hardware interrupt at all, and needs to be specifically programmed into the text editor.

It's just that that was the de-facto standard before Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V replaced it. Back then, Ctrl+C was the break key, so it wasn't usable.

Even in Windows today, you can still use Ctrl+Insert/Shift+Insert/Shift+Delete in text edit or rich edit controls. Libreoffice even supports it.

Even today it's the only way to go in Git Bash which is pretty common on Windows dev machines.
Well I'll be. You learn a new hotkey every day.

Certainly feels like it predates the mouse, considering the innate right-handedness of the key combo.

I've always thought of Ctrl+Ins/Shift+Del/Shift+Ins as an accessibility feature for left-handed people like me.
You use the mouse left handed, then? I'm left handed myself and briefly tried that back as a youngster in computer lab but never really adjusted to it well enough to continue doing so.
I definitely saw some of that keybinding in old DOS programs, but when I started using a microcomputer, the WordStar shortcuts (Control-K based scheme for copy/paste) were the most common.