[Scharkenberg]

I tried Stage Manager and turned it off within 10 minutes. It does seem somewhat better than the iPad implementation, but that bar is so low that this feature at the current state deserves no praise whatsoever.

The new System Settings app is kind of buggy, which makes me think that 13.1 is coming sooner (by the end of the year?) rather than later.

Other than that, there isn't much I can personally say about Ventura. It's more or less what one would expect from mac OS as of late - a subtle continuation of Big Sur and Monterey. Aside from the hardware compatibility list, there is nothing disruptive about it, which I am sure many will like.

For better or for worse, it seems like 80% of the software engineering effort at Apple goes towards iOS.

[vanilla_nut]

The saving grace of the System Settings app is simple: System Preferences sucked too. Even as a macOS user for my entire adult life, looking at that tile layout seemed to hide categories from my mind.

Does anyone know what functionality has been lost in the transition? I was hunting around for it after I upgraded myself, but it's so different it's hard to compare. Ars' mapping indicates things are mostly still there. But I also can't seem to reorganize my connection priority list for WiFi networks. I wonder if the PM in control of the WiFi network settings panel even knows that feature exists.

[Toutouxc]

I agree, before it was the main screen with the icons that sucked (but looked friendly!), now the sidebar is okay and workable and the detail screens suck.

[wlesieutre]

In the network vein, Network Locations are also gone

[ridiculous_fish]

FWIW I tried Stage Manager in Ventura and was surprised by how much I like it. I prefer to keep background windows clickable, and Stage Manager gives me that for free, except they don't get "lost" as easily. The animations are slick too (try it with Exposé!). I'll likely keep it enabled.

Settings has some issues but isn't as bad as I was led to believe from the pre-release hand-wringing.

The only compatibility issue I've encountered is that `man --path` no longer works. Weird.